In a long-ranging interview with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher, Google Chairman Eric Schmidt talked at length about privacy.

Google Inc. executive chairman Eric Schmidt said one of his biggest failures as chief executive of the search giant over the last decade was grappling with the rise of social identity services such as Facebook Inc.

In a wide-ranging keynote interview at the D9: All Things Digital conference in Rancho Palos Verdes, California Tuesday, Mr. Schmidt said Google had missed on "the friend thing"—including valuable information about who users and their friends are, which can be used to improve the information delivered to them. "In the online world you need to know who you are dealing with," said Mr. Schmidt, who became executive chairman earlier this year while Google co-founder Larry Page took over the CEO role. "I clearly knew that I had to do something and I failed to do it."

Future Google products will add social functionality, he said, such as the previously announced service rolling out to websites starting on Wednesday called "+1" which will help users recommend search results to their online social contacts.

Mr. Schmidt said the consumer Internet today has come to be dominated by a "gang of four" companies that want to be platforms for other companies: Google and Facebook, along with Apple Inc. and Amazon.com Inc. "We have never had four companies growing at the scale that those four are in aggregate," he said.

Mr. Schmidt's comments came as Google increasingly faces pressure to both partner and compete with all three of those tech titans. Mr. Schmidt said Google recently renewed its relationships with Apple for use of its maps and search services, even as Google develops Android, its alternative to Apple's iOS operating system for phones and tablet computers.

Even as Google develops its own social services, he said the company tried to partner with Facebook on search but was rebuffed.

Facebook didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

In the interview, Mr. Schmidt also said privacy was a top concern for Google, and that he would "much rather" have a private company making decisions about consumer privacy than the government. Nonetheless, he said he generally supported some kind of privacy regulation by the U.S. government "because it would rationalize some of the questions" about the issue, meaning that it could simplify the debate.

With Google's size and dominance, Mr. Schmidt said the company expects "constant review" of its acquisitions and policies by regulators. Since he stepped down from his position as CEO, Mr. Schmidt said he has been focusing much of his energy on dealing with outward-facing public policy issues.

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  • Mikey7c8
    Mar 31, 08:47 PM
    John Gruber's take:
    So here�s the Android bait-and-switch laid bare. Android was �open� only until it became popular and handset makers dependent upon it. Now that Google has the handset makers by the balls, Android is no longer open and Google starts asserting control.

    Andy Rubin, Vic Gundotra, Eric Schmidt: shameless, lying hypocrites, all of them.Can't say I disagree.

    I completely disagree.

    Going open sounded like a great idea in the beginning. Fast forward to today, and manufacturers have used the openness against the platform by creating custom versions of android that aren't readily upgradable.

    This has hurt the platform more than 'being open' helped it and google is right to start regulating what can and cannot be done.

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  • tartufo
    Apr 12, 08:27 AM
    I am Sorry but I have to say something here. your ignorance amuses me.




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  • arkitect
    Mar 4, 03:41 AM
    There is no risk of destroying society.
    I never realised we had such power�

    Earthquakes when we have sex and now getting married destroys whole societies.

    ;)

    We are SO screwed!
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  • 0815
    Apr 25, 02:01 PM
    What I don't understand is even if Apple is tracking us, why did Steve Jobs simply lie about the claims, thats whats fishy about all this..

    Because Apple is not tracking you. Apple does not get any of that data, they will never see or touch it. It is data that is stored locally on your phone out of reach from everyone except you. "Apple tracks you" would mean that the phone is sending the data 'home', but it doesn't. APPLE HAS NO IDEA WHERE THE F YOU ARE OR WERE (and they probably couldn't care less)





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  • RebootD
    Apr 10, 11:39 AM
    Considering the number of shocking disappointments (Lion being more iOS, no FCS updates, glossy everything etc) as of late with Apple releases I'm still not holding my breath that they will release something to take me away from CS5. I would love to be surprised though.





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  • aricher
    Sep 13, 12:44 PM
    I think we can all read at normal size. Besides, how do you know the IT dude typed that vs. the poster just typing what he said?

    I did a direct copy-paste from my IT guy's email. What a knucklehead - him not you.





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  • Imola Ghost
    Apr 8, 12:15 AM
    This may be why I haven't gotten my iPad 2 white wifi only from BB. I put a deposit down a couple of hours after it went on sale. They just called me last night to tell me that it came in.





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  • NickPill
    Aug 7, 10:55 PM
    Hi, this is just a question to the developers. Did you already get 10.5? I have the ADC Select membership but can�t find 10.5 in the download section. Please send me an email where I can find it. Thank you!





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  • Iconoclysm
    Apr 19, 08:34 PM
    Well Rovio (Angry Birds) thinks otherwise:

    http://www.insidemobileapps.com/2011/03/13/angry-birds-android-ios/

    "The company said in December that it expected to make $1 million per month from Android by the end of 2010. (...) Now that the app has seen about 100 million installs across all platforms, Rovio is not getting the same initial bump in paid download revenue from Apple�s app store. On Android, the company doesn�t offer paid Angry Birds apps, but sees recurring revenue from advertising."

    So they make more money with their free Android version than they do with the paid iOS version.

    Actually, that article does not say they make more money - they say that the two are making about the same money RIGHT NOW. After the initial amount that they made from Apple, when revenues were much higher.





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  • Ries
    Apr 27, 09:45 AM
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_6 like Mac OS X; en-gb) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8E200 Safari/6533.18.5)



    It wouldn't hurt to actually read the article. I know this wouldn't allow you to write the gibberish that is your paranoia, so I can see why you wouldn't. They say very clearly that they will be releasing an update to the particular problem of location services. Also, the phone isn't logging your location if it is logging cell towers and some wifi hotspots. It's logging those locations.

    And how close do you have to be before a wifi is logged? they reach what, 10-100meters? Take the log and triangulate the cell towers, since your properly most at work or at home, those two places will stand out in the data.





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  • Durendal
    Apr 5, 07:10 PM
    About time. FCP is aging poorly. The engine is still Carbon and based around the old QT, which means that a lot of functions only use two cores at the most. I think we'll finally see Apple seriously leveraging GCD, OpenCL, etc here, although don't expect video compression to use OpenCL if the lousy quality of CUDA encodes is any indicator. Maybe Apple will add support for QuickSync on Sandy Bridge.

    Also, Compressor is a damned joke. When your "Pro" software encoder gives you less options and lower quality with longer render times than free alternatives, you really need to go back to the drawing board. Yes, a lot of folks use hardware encoders, but really, if you're going to include a software encoder, at least make it as good as free software...





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  • Reach9
    Apr 11, 05:57 PM
    Yea that is obvious. The iPhone is better.

    Makes sense coming from an Apple Fan :rolleyes:





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  • Silverfist
    Apr 25, 03:43 PM
    [QUOTE=killr_b;12458559]As a consumer, why should I be subjected to this risk which doesn't benefit me in the slightest? And why should this data be "backed up," secretly, to my computer?[QUOTE]

    Your phone stores this so as to keep from having to re-install connection locations every time you move a few hundred feet. It's "subjecting" you to better battery life by not having to work as hard to keep you connected. Oh noes.

    ...And it backs up the data for the same reason it backs up EVERYTHING when you sync -- so you can restore without losing any of the data on the phone.

    What, you want crappy battery life, slower speeds, and loss of data if you need to restore your phone?

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  • Willis
    Jul 27, 02:19 PM
    They didn't. Where is this Mhz myth you are talking about? They are downplaying the use of Mhz was the point I was making.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKF9GOE2q38

    Anyone wanting to know about the Mhz myth shall find it there.

    These new chips are to prove that the Mhz myth doesnt exist. Just by changing their arch. they can provide more performance with the same mhz, instead of increasing it (such as the Pentiums)

    Imagine. If the Intel's were'nt annouced in January... we'd only have them for a month or two now instead of 7. Crazy.

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  • e-coli
    Aug 11, 04:37 PM
    How dare you. Since when does apple release a product that is not up to par or even above. Of course they will do it good, it is apple. It is going to be amazing i can just feel it!

    Uhh...Motion version 1 was complete crap...totally unusable. Aperture...slow as Christmas, and has serious image degradation problems.

    Don't buy into all the hype.

    Apple's stock keeps sinking, and they're being investigated by the SEC (or on the brink), so this could be a rumor that's being intentionally leaked to satisfy Wall Street.





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  • Silentwave
    Jul 15, 01:12 AM
    What about 4 SATA II Drives? This way I can have a mirrored 1TB RAID [clicks heals]

    The speed of a RAID with the security of mirroring.. it doesn't get mucho better :)

    You mean SATA 3Gbps? Sata II is often confused with Sata 3Gbps and has not been brought to market yet, unfortunately. the sata people even have a page explaining the difference on their site :confused: . the good part though is they're planning 6Gbps and IIRC 12 as well.

    I want sata3g or SAS or both.





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  • zacman
    Apr 19, 02:59 PM
    Hmm.

    What about this:

    http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2011/4/comScore_Reports_February_2011_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_Share

    http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2011/3/comScore_Reports_January_2011_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_Share

    That's US mobile subscribers marketshare for Jan and Feb '11. My numbers are worldwide smartphone marketshare. Completly different things.





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  • Macnoviz
    Apr 12, 10:57 AM
    So the presentation should be in about 10 hours?

    Has any one heard of live coverage? A livestream will probably be too much to ask, but maybe one of the tech blogs is doing a text/photo update.





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  • ImNoSuperMan
    Aug 26, 01:11 PM
    Thank God Apple had shut down Indian Support centre before this happened. Otherwise all the web community would be blaming Indian Call Center for degrading Apple support service even if they were not at fault.





    Erasmus
    Aug 26, 07:36 PM
    not trying to start a war or anything but...isn't that what the mac pro is for? isn't the iMac considered consumer grade while the mbp is considered professional grade??? i think it is badass that the mbp is faster than the imac.

    Yes, but Conroe processors are less expensive than Merom for faster clocks, faster bus speeds, but increased power consumption, but considering iMacs used to house G5's, and they don't rely on battery power, Conroe is the logical choice for the iMac.

    Obviously the MBP should get the 2.16 and 2.33 Ghz Meroms, as you couldn't put a Conroe in one, but the MBP should not limit the speed of the iMac, just because it's not "Pro", and I would personally consider the iMac at least "semiPro" because it is damn fast. I've said before that there is much too much of a price and capability gap between iMac and Mac Pro, which could easily be filled with a "Pizza Box" or more likely, and probably more favourable in my opinion, a "fullPro" larger version of iMac (upgradeable of course) which I designate iMac Ultra, cos it's a cool name.

    There are good gradients between Mac Mini and iMac, MB and MBP, but not between iMac and MP.

    An appropriately maxed (RAM and GPU) 20" iMac costs AU$3169.
    A "comparable" MP (20" ACD, 2Ghz, 2Gb RAM) costs AU$5148

    That's 60% more. Enough to buy a Macbook to take to Uni. Apple needs a ~AU$4000 option to fill the gap, ie. with a bigger screen, upgradeable, better GPU, better CPU, and I will be very happy. :rolleyes:





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    Apr 19, 01:42 PM
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    filmguy
    Aug 17, 07:16 PM
    From now on, whatever processor Apple has, Windows has, and the differences will come down mostly on the OS.

    I agree with your post and I'm also a PC-TO-MAC CONVERT. :)

    The difference is going to come down to OS, as well as, the overall design of a machine and how well it's engineered. Apple seem to engineer machines of high quality, from the mere fact that their machines stand the test of time e.g. the other day I was working on a G4, on FCP 5.1, editing and rendering HDV footage in its native format, HDV1080i50 (Australian Sony camera). Although it wasn't the quickest performance, it held its own.

    Also, I'm an I.T. guy transitioning to film (pre-prod, shoot, and post-prod) and the whole Mac experience is different from a PC, from a creative workflow point-of-view. I bought MY FIRST MAC this week - Mac Pro, 3 Ghz, 2 Gig RAM, 250 Gig HD, standard video card, and previously owned 2 x 300 Gig Ext Maxtor 7200 RPM. I also bought AE 7, Adobe Web Bundle and FCP Studio 5.1. I shoot with the Sony Z1P and will soon have some sample work on the web.

    Lastly, OS X will always be superior to Windows based on the fact that it's built on a UNIX foundation. If I'm not mistaken, Windows code has just built on top of existing code year-after-year. :mad: I think the OS X was a fresh build.





    viccles
    Aug 26, 04:21 PM
    I'll believe it when I see it. Merom rumours have been flying for a long long time now. Not that it really concerns me anyway. Just hope its what you guys are anticipating





    composer11
    Jul 23, 05:00 AM
    Apple's business model is based on high margins. I don't think this is going to change.

    My guess is that they will release upgraded systems more often, and discontinue the slower systems more often, and leave the prices approximately unchanged.

    Don't expect dirt-cheap Macs (aside from closeout sales to dump old stock, of course), but do expect more powerful systems to come out much more rapidly.
    You can get tons of great audio gear. But you're going to have to start shopping in music stores and not in computer stores. And be prepared to pay for the quality you get.


    Yeah, I know, that's probably what they will do forcing you to pay top dollar.
    Hope the Mac Books get dedicated GPU, intel is rumored to be working on something that should be on par with ATI/Nvida to be ready for Vista, meanwhile AMD is scooping up ATI.

    Regarding music gear, I have a Mackie 400F which sounds nice, a tube pre amp and Rhodes NT2A, I was speaking of wireless. Everything wireless. LOL!



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  • kevinthai
    Apr 6, 06:23 PM
    I just got my low end 13" MacBook Air with 4GB of RAM today too. Should I keep it?





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  • NJRonbo
    Jun 14, 07:24 PM
    Bbiz,

    Keep us posted. Worse case I pre order from Apple first
    thing tomorrow then cancel if Radio Shack guarantees me
    a phone later that day with their PIN program.





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  • NT1440
    Mar 23, 10:27 AM
    Good for Samsung!

    To the industry: THIS is the approach you take to new markets. Don't just come up with an answer to the original (iPad in this case), get you engineers engaged and push to define where the market will go, not where it currently is.

    This is honestly the first tablet introduced by the industry that I feel is a competitor to the iPad.

    That said, sales wise iPad will be king of the castle for quite some time. You can't really price the apple ecosystem, or beat the usability of iOS. iPad definitely has the mindshare, which is what you need in emerging markets. Take a look at the category definers Apple has introduced. Basically they set the standard for whatever market they are in (with exceptions for a few).





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  • mdelvecchio
    Mar 22, 01:00 PM
    Look at the specs, their greater or equal to the iPad 2 with the exception of battery life.

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  • GekkePrutser
    Apr 6, 12:52 PM
    A hard drive uses less than 2 Watts while reading or writing. Flash uses the same or more when it is used; it only has an advantage when it is not used, where the hard disk drive has to spend energy to keep the drive spinning (less than 1 Watt).

    But that's when modern SSD's do a lot of their housekeeping, stuff like garbage collection. So as SSD's get faster and more advanced you might see the idle power drain get higher.





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  • jayducharme
    Jun 8, 06:57 PM
    You've got questions. We've got transistors.

    Do they? I thought they phased them out, along with most of the other electronic hobbyist items that they alone used to carry.

    Well, I guess the more vendors who carry the iPhone, the better. But The Shack would be the last place I'd go to get one. (I used to work there....) But I guess if it's the only electronics store in a particular town, that might be a way for Apple to get iPhones into the hands of people who might not otherwise buy one.





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  • shawnce
    Jul 14, 06:45 PM
    Agreed. I can make an argument for the consumer machines, where perhaps 512 MB is sufficient for basic users. Specifically, why force them to pay more for 1 GB if they don't need it. But when it comes to the Pro machines, as if anyone buying one of these beasts is not going to require at least 2 GB of RAM, let alone 1 GB. No one buys a quad Xeon Powermac to just surf the Internet and check their e-mail. :cool:

    Personally I go the BTO route at Apple.com for my PowerMacs and downgrade all RAM to the minimum cost and buy my RAM from a trusted 3rd party vendor for a savings of at least 10% if not more so.





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  • Dr.Gargoyle
    Aug 11, 03:59 PM
    Only if you have an active subscription on all of them. That's the number the graph behind the link shows.
    I have three subscriptions. Two in europe, one in US. How does that count?





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  • bryanc
    Aug 27, 10:30 AM
    There's nothing stopping Apple, Dell or anyone else from cruising the forums, reading blogs, etc. and collecting the best ideas out there. They may well be doing this already, but they don't need to, because they employ lots of bright people who can generate good ideas as fast as anyone on these forums.

    The problem isn't coming up with the great ideas, it's doing the engineering, marketing, QA and legal wrangling necessary to get an idea implemented in a way that will work well, sell well, and not get you sued.

    Apple has been doing a better job of this, IMHO, than most corporations for the past few years, however, they clearly stepped in a big pile with Creative. Fortunately, Apple has an agile legal team, and they appear to have been able to flick most of it off their shoes and onto those of their competitors with their settlement.

    But my point is, Apple has no shortage of ideas, and the last thing they need is a ton of people filling out web forms with more 'great ideas' that they would wind up having to pay for.

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  • Tones2
    Apr 11, 02:20 PM
    The only downside is, Apple may be so darn busy in the fall with new products, that you won't even be able to get in their stores!

    That's why god created the internet.......:D





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  • samcraig
    Apr 27, 09:55 AM
    And once again the Apple fans will turn out to have been correct.

    Really? The posters on here that say there was no issue are correct?

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  • jaxstate
    Jul 27, 10:29 AM
    Sorry if i missed it, but at what speeds do these run? Don't they know just because they keep bumping and bumping the chip speed don't really mean they have a faster system. Seem just like yesterday when a better design was more important than a super fast chip. Oh well, everyone is buying into the Mhz myth now. Funny that just a year or so ago, Apple was trying to shoot down the Mhz myth, now they have people cheering for it. I guess power consumption is good though.





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  • paul4339
    Apr 20, 10:48 AM
    You mean it's not an Apple? :eek: But it's ok for Apple to sue and Australian grocery store because they think the letter W looks like their logo? LMAO. Please.

    I think this was because Woolworth (Australian supermarket giant) applied for a blanket trademark that allows it to apply it's logo on anything - especially competing electronic goods, computers, music players, and branded phones. (I'm not saying it's right, just surfacing some more details)

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  • reflex
    Sep 19, 07:51 AM
    Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'd of thought buying the latest and fastest computer every year would be the first thing a 'pro-user' would do with his money.

    I can't speak for everyone, but there are a few considerations apart from speed:
    - the available funds
    - the ability to deduct the purchase from taxes
    - having to reinstall everything on the new computer

    Speed is nice, but when a two year old laptop is mostly fast enough (in my case), then why buy a new one after only a year?

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  • Tomaz
    Aug 7, 06:02 PM
    They way I understand it, Time Machine is SUPPOSED to be used with an external...the page on the Leopard site even has an icon of an iMac connected to an External. I'm sure you can use your Internal drive if you want, but I don't see the point of that.

    So how about the MacBooks?? I don't carry around an external HD all the time. So when I do changes to a document on a flight, there's no TimeMachine backup?? Cool whould be, if the programm did backups to an external HD when available and locally when there's no external HD. But as soon as one connects the extrenal HD again, those local backups should be automatically moved to the extrenal to save space on the internal HD. That would eliminate the need for an additional external backup.





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  • Reach
    Apr 12, 03:01 PM
    Would not excluding capture from tape be quite dumb?

    Maybe I'm the stone age man using XH A1...





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  • Antares
    Sep 13, 11:55 AM
    and this got negative votes because...??????????

    Yeesh!

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  • fullmanfullninj
    Apr 8, 02:14 AM
    Did it ever occur to you that perhaps BB take a cut of Apple's share of the profit when they sell an iPad?

    Based on what I've seen, BB doesn't take a cut of the profit.

    Look at it this way - Apple has to approve a certain retailer to sell their products. Why would they then pay that retailer that they have approved? I admit this isn't a very compelling example.

    My point(s) remain that managers are not hoarding iPads to meet their daily budgets and I do not believe BB gets any sort of money from Apple for every sale. Even then, that would not explain the stop-sale. In fact, that would encourage BB to go through their stock...





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  • davidcmc
    Mar 22, 03:01 PM
    Come: present tense. See: iPad2
    Will come: future tense. See: Samsung tablet.
    May come: conditional tense. See: RIM tablet.

    The prices are official. Stop this fanboy **** about "it's not released yet".
    Xoom has been released and sells well, although not so much as the iPad, but it still grabs some market share.

    You people keep trying to find problems where there are no problems.

    It's an official announcement, the tablets are officially coming with an official price that makes real front to the iPad, you accepting it or not.

    It's like you fanboy people hate the fact that competitors are doing well.
    The Galaxy Tab 8.9 and 10.1 are thinner than the iPad 2, that must be too much for fanboys hearts.





    wpotere
    Apr 27, 12:31 PM
    I suspected it was a copy, I've never trusted the president, and I probably never will.


    Wow... You tap dance worse than Trump does. Just say it, you NEVER liked Obama and never wanted him as president. So your comments earlier were nothing but a lie.





    SuperCachetes
    Mar 4, 09:17 PM
    Logic is my source. Society needs people, no people means no society. If there were no more babies society would eventually collapse.

    Wow. Does your logic also tell you that 100% of society is gay? Do you think that only gay males were posting here, asking for a source?

    Your example has no relevance to the actual world we live in. Even if every single homosexual on Earth decided not to raise a child (which is far from the truth), we do not all have to make/raise babies to propagate the species.





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    Apr 27, 08:57 AM
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    Before yesterday?





    dclocke
    Sep 19, 09:41 AM
    I don't know how many times we have to go round and round with this here. I've been on MacRumors since '01 and it's always the same-old, same-old. It's not legitimate. It's "I-wantism." You have no basis to believe that a Rev B would be more "stabled and refined." That's a hope, backed by nothing -- and nothing Apple ever comments on, either. The bottom line is that you can hope if you want, and you can wait if you want, but to bash Apple for being slow on the trigger, and to make the argument that Meroms are amazing and Yonahs are crap is, frankly, horse manure. Like I said, 64 bit is pretty irrelevant for most users, and the speed and battery differences are quite negligible. And the argument that Apple is losing tons of sales to PC manufactuers is, frankly, laughable too.

    Well, I've been on MacRumors since last week and I'm already tired of posts telling me what I really need. I don't recall seeing posts saying Yonah was crap. Most people just want to feel like they are making a good investment on an expensive piece of equipment that may be around for 3-4+ years. I would like a laptop with a 64-bit processor. Period. I don't care what you think I need. The problem with posts like this are that they waste my time, and the time of other users who are looking for information on the release of the new MBP models.

    Edit: I should add, however, that if anyone is willing to donate the money for me to purchase a new MBP, I will gladly accept all advice on said purchase.





    daneoni
    Aug 26, 04:08 PM
    To be honest i dont really care anymore. As it is, im leaning away from Apple portables and moving to their desktops. Maybe just maybe if the 15" MBP sports a 16x DL superdrive, Magnetic latch Firewire 800 and maybe an extra USB port i may consider. But to be honest the MacPro is looking like a better candidate for me. My PB is fine my mobile computing needs, its time for a powerful workhorse thats more stable and reliable, namely, the MacPro



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  • brewno
    Mar 26, 12:53 AM
    I tested Lion, and removed it after a month. Not buying it. I'll use Snow Leopard, it's the best OS so far. I'll see the one after Lion, maybe there will be something interesting.





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  • Machead III
    Sep 19, 08:05 AM
    Engadget have the situation nailed. (http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/19/so-where-the-hell-are-our-core-2-duo-macbooks/)





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  • NoSmokingBandit
    Nov 26, 07:07 PM
    You need to level up quite a bit before the damage is fully introduced. Its like a racing RPG, you cant use everything until you level up. Commenting on the damage early in the game is like saying FF7's magic sucked because all you have is the fire materia.





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  • MrNomNoms
    Mar 26, 03:57 AM
    I use my computer as a "real computer" and I like virtually every change I've seen. I wish people wouldn't generalize so broadly and presume that because certain additions aren't something that they use that it has nothing to do with "real work."

    Why shouldn't they be related? Borrowing concepts and sharing library isn't the same as being merged. The only people who honestly believe the OSes are being merged into one are the paranoid people on this forum.

    Unless I'm missing something, Mission Control is added in addition to Expos� as it is now. The old functionality will still be there. As for it being "ruined," a couple of days before the Lion preview the graphic artist I work with most was describing changes he wished they'd make to Expos� and we were laughing together a few days later when we watched the preview and boom, there it was. Incidentally, he makes his living off what he does with his "real" computer.

    Cool. Don't use "full screen apps." However, they make a lot of sense in a few places. Paired with Spaces I'm looking forward to this when working on my laptop without an external monitor. Also, on a multimonitor setup it makes a lot of sense.

    Again, don't do any of it. I've been using Steam for my games on the PC basically since CounterStrike: Condition Zero was released. It's awesome. I was thrilled with the AppStore for similar reasons. It's just convenient. However, it's not the only distribution method available for software so its existence doesn't impede you.

    I also use my trackpad when using my computer like a desktop and love having my Expos� gestures there.

    What's being dumbed down exactly? Ease of use is very different than "dumbing down." Workflows that aren't what one particular individual likes are not "dumb." There are plenty of UNIX fanatics that think people using anything but CLI for half their workflow are using "dumbed down" interfaces. They're wrong and they're annoying.

    Launchpad is, in my opinion, the lamest and most unnecessary addition to Lion. However, it's so minor that I don't care. I know some people will really like it. I am not personally offended by the inclusion of a feature I don't use or care about either.

    The vast majority of people using computers are not techies, pros or developers. They're people like my parents. As a developer, I'm generally more excited about a new release of XCode than I am about OS X because overall, it's going to affect what I do far more than the OS will.

    If they merge in the sense that the Mac becomes as locked down as an iPhone, I agree that that's it on Macs and even if they don't die in the market from Apple's would be hubris I'll be leaving Apple for something else. Thankfully, this will only occur if most of Apple's leadership is replaced with an army of complete morons.

    Really, my point is this: you don't have to like these features. However, that doesn't mean they're not useful. It doesn't mean that they're "dumbed down." It doesn't mean "pros" won't like them. It doesn't mean people who like them don't use their computer as a "real computer" and instead treat it as a "toy." It means you don't like them.

    Thank you for your constructive reply but I have a feeling it will all fall on deaf ears given that most have never actually gone on Google and researched what has been added/changed/enhanced to Mac OS X Lion. For example SAMBA has been removed and completely replaced with a ground up clean room implementation of SMB2 which will translate into better support for Windows Vista and 7 clients as well as the latest versions of Windows. Why hasn't that been mentioned by the nay sayers here?

    OpenGL 3.2 has been added and funny enough not a single thing has been said about the fact that it lays the foundation for future updates that will be more prompt.

    Then there is Webkit2 based web browser whose knock on effects go well beyond Safari and into applications wishing to utilise web based technologies with framework that provides said functionality but handles all the mundane security/process isolation/etc behind the scenes.

    The merging of AV Foundation that serves as the foundation for future development for media products that will span iOS and Mac OS X; that you can have the same media core on iOS and Mac OS X then build upon it to differentiate between the desktop and tablet version by having a different interface, more features on the desktop version etc.

    Sandboxing is being enhanced further and more system components are being put into it as to reduce the security exposure when a bug is found.

    I'm sure others can note even more enhancements but it is frustrating when I hear the same nauseating ignorance over and over again from the cheap seats screaming there are no new features and yet they've done zero in the way of researching and reading on the matter.





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  • supremedesigner
    Jul 14, 03:29 PM
    Burn two DVD's at once and DVD copying.

    I have Mirror Door. How can I burn DVD (top) and CD (bottom) at once via Toast? I have tried and nothing worked, Toast only focus 1 thing at a time. Or am I wrong? :confused:





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  • Bill McEnaney
    Feb 28, 11:56 AM
    On Friday, though, the college issued a statement accusing him not only of being gay, which it called contrary to traditional Catholic doctrine, but also of misrepresenting before he was hired that he was a member of an independent branch of Catholicism.

    He denied both accusations Saturday, saying he never hid his sexuality or his affiliation with the Old Catholic Apostolic Church of the Americas from school officials.

    Does he feel same-sex attractions or doesn't he? The reporter says that the priest is "gay." The article tells me that the priest denied both accusations. If he denied both accusations, he denied that he was gay.

    The reporter or the college goofed. Being "gay" isn't contrary to Catholic teachings. Living a "gay lifestyle" is contrary to them.





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  • balamw
    Apr 6, 04:40 PM
    I should say that I do own an Android device. I own an original Nook, and will probably pick up a 4-7" device at some point to play with in a generation or two.

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  • ~Shard~
    Jul 14, 02:33 PM
    Maybe one of the drives will be Blu-Ray.

    ... and the other one HD-DVD! :eek: ;) :D





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  • daneoni
    Sep 19, 09:29 AM
    why does anyone need to justify to you why they want 64-bit computing?

    I was just gonna say that. All you people trying to tell people want they need and dont need are just wasting your time. At the end of the day people are gonna buy what they want regardless of what you preach to them.





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  • jb510
    Mar 25, 10:52 PM
    Whatever happened to:
    Alpha -> Beta -> Release Candidate -> Golden Master

    I guess I can uncross my fingers of a file system miracle...

    (yes I know and am looking forward to Z410, but would rather have Apple come up with something).





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  • indisguise
    Apr 8, 03:09 AM
    Many Best Buys with Apple Shoppes have Apple representatives who work right at the store, I doubt they would let this happen at their store. I wonder how many Best Buys have done this





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  • 11thIndian
    Apr 6, 07:38 AM
    The functions inside FCP do not need the OS support. Apple can install private frameworks, and they do it already, for their own applications. So i think they will support SL.

    AV Foundation brings back QT7-features to QTX. Apple uses AV Foundation in the new QTX-player of Lion.

    And AV Foundation is what allows iOS devices like the iPhone and iPad, with their significantly slower processors and reduced RAM, to view and edit h264 media.

    AV Foundation sidesteps ALL the problems of QTKit. It's a fresh start.

    Here's a great article from Philip Hodgett's site:

    http://www.philiphodgetts.com/2011/02/a-new-64-bit-final-cut-pro/





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  • ccrandall77
    Aug 11, 02:47 PM
    I am sorry, but it is... 150 million people is a small market compared to the other +6 billion people. Europe alone is more than 700 million people...

    Well only about 1.25bil out of the +6 actually have cell service and I'd suspect only about 300mil in Eurpoe use cell phones (according to internetworldstats.com estimates 291mil in Europe use the internet... I'd assume cell usage is similiar).

    And factor in that the US, Canada and many of the other countries with CDMA service are amongst the most wealthy in the world. Those +150mil customers are nothing to sneeze at.





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  • HecubusPro
    Aug 26, 08:06 PM
    I Just Hope Apple Joins The Rest Of The Manufacturers In This Mass Announcement. I'm afraid they won't due to EGO problems. :rolleyes: In this case, I wish they wouldn't "Think Differently".

    Agreed. That is a worry I share as well. I can't imagine why they would wait, but part of me thinks they garner some sort of perverse pleasure in making people sick with excitement over new announcements, releases, and upgrades. Making us wait longer than anyone else, especially considering Dell USA is now offering Core 2 Duo systems for sale on their website, wouldn't shock me too much unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong though. I wants my MBP Merom!





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  • gauriemma
    Aug 26, 08:12 AM
    No, because different versions of the ranges were initially posted only recently has it been clarified...get with the program and stop trying to be a smartass


    Get with what program? I went to the support site on the day the recall was announced, checked to see if my serial number was in the range, it wasn't, and I went on with my life. Just to be safe, I even checked back a couple days later, and the ranges were still the same as the first time I checked.

    I had to do the same thing wheh I was checking out our Dell laptops at the office. It's really not that difficult a concept. I think some people just like to have something to complain about.





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  • ChickenSwartz
    Aug 5, 08:40 PM
    There will be no Xserve Pro until there is an Xserve Non-Pro. Many people would love to see an xserve mini (http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/3FE506E2-FD6D-4FC6-BC9C-055F27279DF4.html), but at present there is no need to change the name.

    I think iSteve said, when he introduced the MacBook Pro, that they weren't calling it the PowerBook becasue they wanted "mac" in the title (and obviously to take out Power). A new name with a new chip?





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  • WildCowboy
    Aug 17, 01:22 AM
    It was just the performance was dam quick I just wasn't sure if there was an Intel version out or not, either way that is killer performance.

    Absolutely...that's what's so impressive about the results for some of these non-universal apps. Just wait until the universal CS3 is available...the Mac Pro will destroy the Quad G5.





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  • gnasher729
    Aug 17, 03:52 AM
    Lots of stuff on Anandtech about the poor memory performance on the Intel chipset.

    Looks like the Xeons got killed by the G5 in Word in their tests.
    Might be an interesting machine when/if the motherboard chipset/ memory performance issue is looked in to.

    I think part 3 of their review will be telling, paring the machine up to XP machines in a variety of tests.

    Anandtech has one big omission: They didn't look at the CPU usage at all. Word doesn't use more than one CPU. And may I say it is damned hard to do anything in Word where CPU usage is of any concern; how often do you export a thousand page Word document to HTML?

    These machines can do many things simultaneously. So what would have happened if you were converting a DVD using Handbrake in the background while doing the Word test? On the dual core G5, one CPU would have been used by Word, so Handbrake slows down by 50%. On the Quad core Xeon, one core would have been used by Word, so Handbrake slows down only by 25%.





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  • tortoise
    Aug 7, 09:14 PM
    Lots of ways it COULD be implemented. Looks at Suns new file system ZFS. It is basically "Copy on Write". With a file system you can do things even fancier then with a DBMS. For example a "block" (i-node) exists physicaly on the disk only once but it could be maped into any numbr of files. If a file in only an orderd set of block numbers then to copy a copy all you need to copy is the set of numbers which is on the order of 1000 times shorter then the data itself.


    Ahem, a modern relational database system can do everything a file system can. In fact, they are both databases, but optimized for different tasks and slightly different semantics. The same behaviors can be achieved with both; it is a matter of design bias, not capability. File systems like ZFS actually converge on normal MVCC database behavior, which durably journals all writes but with more flexibility with respect to atomicity and version cleanup than a file system. File system semantics, even versioning ones, are more primitive and less capable than database ones, but with substantially increased performance over what would be possible from an MVCC database for the same task.

    Same theory, different optimizations. The balancing act has always been between the power fully ACID-compliant MVCC semantics and the basic speed of simple file system semantics. Apple and Sun are burning some excess performance capacity to deliver features that are closer to the database ideal.





    Rt&Dzine
    Apr 28, 06:33 PM
    That is a good point... I was "lumped" in as a liberal and I don't consider myself one. I am more moderate. Live and let live kind of guy...

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    Multimedia
    Sep 13, 12:21 PM
    The Mac Pro isn't for most people. It's for professionals and professional applications, which are usally multithreaded, and will take advantage of the capabilities.

    If you have a complaint about all these cores and not being able to take advantage of them, then this is not the computer for you. You're probably not using the software that will take advantage of them, so let it go and stop whining about it. For the those of us that do, this is great news.Thank you shelterpaw. And Bravo! Couldn't have said it better. Those who don't see the point of a lot of cores are not doing anything like what those of us who do are. :)I'm underutilizing my cpu nearly all of the time, but that's irrelevant-what really matters to me is that fraction of the time when I *am* asking it to do 4 things at once, and I want it do them at the same speed that each could be done individually.Zactly. This is the most reason - not that you need this level of performance 24/7. Thank you for that daver.http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007US79Y.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
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    Mattsasa
    Apr 6, 03:07 PM
    Not bad for a $800 dollar device, available for one carrier. I wonder what the numbers will look like after the late march wifi-only.

    At least 100k people know what its like to have a really FUNCTIONAL Tablet.

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    MatthewThomas
    Apr 10, 11:45 AM
    I'll be at the event and plan to give my take on it. I've been using FCP since day one and can attest that little actual functionality has changed over the years. There have been additional features added, but nearly no change to the way that you do your work. And in a post-tape world, this is not good.

    Here is a long thread featuring my ideas and predictions over what the FCP platform may become, and how it might affect Apple's other distribution models:

    http://www.cinema5d.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=25464


    I posted this a few days ago when this rumor first broke, but I think it might be fun to post again. It is a long thread, and some of the most interesting predictions are found buried in the dozen+ pages of posts. I should add that Cinema5D is a forum for digital filmmakers and commercial producers that need to operate on limited budgets, so the comments there reflect some of the best "up and coming" Final Cut Pro users.





    GekkePrutser
    Apr 6, 11:13 AM
    IMHO i would love to see an 11.6 MBA with an i3. So that there could still be enough power for backlit.
    And please, do make the screen better for the 11.6


    There isn't an i3 in any low voltage or ultra low voltage spec for Sandy Bridge.